Jump to content
Nugget Shooter Forums


  • Content count

  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won


DOC last won the day on December 23 2017

DOC had the most liked content!

Community Reputation

262 Excellent

About DOC

  • Rank
    Silver Member
  • Birthday 04/20/1949

Contact Methods

  • Website URL
  • ICQ

Profile Information

  • Gender
  • Location
    Las Vegas, Nevada
  • Interests

Recent Profile Visitors

2,051 profile views
  1. The cost of headphones has nothing to do with their ability to help you detect gold. It depends on how the headphones sound to you. I can't use headphones made for music because they are usually full of bass. I can't hear low sounds. I need my headphones to sound a little tinny. So I think headphones are very much a personal choice which depends on what sounds good to you. That might be a very expensive pair of headphones, or a relatively inexpensive pair. I do think that whatever headphones you decide on, the ones you really like the sound of, you should use a booster. An amplifier has been shown time and time again to help you find more gold because it amplifies subtle targets. I absolutely can not work without an amplifier. Doc
  2. It looks like it is pulverized quartz. I also notice some pieces of granite and ironstone. It looks like it acted as some kind of a collection area for runoff from surrounding ridges. Sort of a natural area to concentrate goodies. Bur Adam there are people who simply don't have the experience to look at something like this and say, "Oh wow this looks interesting." Boulder Dash is a force to be reckoned with. I think he actually might be able to find gold in a Kmart parking lot. Doc
  3. I was talking to a customer today that asked me if I had spoken to Gus Lagerstrom. I told him I had not heard from Gus for a long time. Last time was 5 - 6 years ago. Gus worked for Minelab for years, and worked for me for a couple of years until his early onset Alzheimer's made it impossible. Well as we were talking I did a Google search and was sad to see that Gus had passed away. Rest in Peace Gus! I know your mind is now sharper than ever and you will have immense luck in the goldfields of heaven. Boulder City, NV - Paul "Gus" Lagerstrom, 75, died Thursday, October 26, 2017, at St. Mary's Health Care in Worcester, after a long battle with Alzheimer's disease. He is survived by three children, Maria E. Schaffer of Huntington Beach, California, Donna L. Lagerstrom of So. Yarmouth, and Paul J. Lagerstrom of Boulder City, Nevada; his brother, Philip Lagerstrom of Venice, Florida; his sister, Louise Chartier of North Oxford; two grandchildren, three great-grandchildren, and several nephews and nieces. Doc
  4. Hell yes I'd detect that ground. Anytime I see ground that looks like a gravel truck dumped a load, that's perfect ground. That picture there looks like an accumulation of decomposed material and I always love areas that look like that. I'd grid it and leave no stone un-turned. Doc
  5. Oh come on Adam, you know what I am talking about. You know guys that go out time and time again and it is just a constant struggle for them. About 18 years ago I am on the top of a very high ridge. It's actually a small hill around 100 foot high out of this large wash. Once you get to the top of it the other side drains into a small gully. I was having quite the day. I had hit a 23 nugget patch. The biggest was 1/2 ounce the next 1/4 and the rest were 1 to 2 grams. This was in the day of the SD2200. Well I am feeling pretty darn "full of myself." Heck the 1/2 ouncer was only like 3 inches down and screamed like trash. So anyway I look down into the large wash and there is a guy down there detecting. I figure I should go down and say hi. (Because I didn't want him to come to me and say hi and see all the disturbed ground.) I go down the hill introduce myself. We exchange pleasantries. He proceeds to tell me, "I don't know if this is a waste of time or not I've been coming out here for 2 1/2 years and I have never found a piece of gold. I've dug lot of trash. There I stand with almost an ounce of gold in my pocket and this poor guy is telling me he has never found gold in 2 1/2 years. That guy had to be doing something wrong, and I can almost bet you what he was doing wrong was spending too much time in the wrong places. For example, where he was detecting in that big wash... what a waste of time, anything in there, because of the volume of water, would probably be so deep you would never hear it. Bed rock is probably 6 feet to 10 feet down.
  6. Yep, that is what I am talking about right there. Doc
  7. I am wondering if any of you guys remember your English Composition class in High School? The purpose of a title: " In composition, a title is a word or phrase given to a text to identify the subject, attract the reader's attention, and forecast the tone and substance of the writing to follow. ... " Notice that ATTRACT the reader's attention? Title's should be provocative, and yet given a idea about what the article is about. You know, like something titled, "A guaranteed way to get women to drool all over you!" Then what follows is a recipe for fudge brownies. Doc
  8. Metal Detecting NAKED !

    No problem Bill. Doc
  9. You're the man. And I really admire that you took the time to educate yourself before heading out into the field. I think you would probably agree with me that the reason you were successful is because you headed to the field with a wealth of knowledge. Without that knowledge you probably would not have known what looked good and what didn't. You are going to be a force to be reckoned with in the prospecting world as soon as you get about 10 to 20 trips under your belt. Congratulations and welcome the the forum, Doc
  10. This is an article I wrote many many years ago that I could not find, but just ran across it. I trust it will be helpful to the newbies and may give you old sods a moment to reconsider what you are doing, or not doing. Before you dismiss the information in this post, I challenge you to take a large coin, perhaps an American Silver Dollar and tape it to the top of your metal detecting coil. You may be surprised that your detector will act perfectly normal, you can swing it, and hunt with it, you will have a threshold and not a single clue that there is a large chunk of metal attached to the top of your coil. Remember, any metal your detector sees constantly, it will generally regard as mineralization. It will balance it out, however, you lose an enormous amount of sensitivity to small items like little nuggets. Here's the article: Some nugget hunting lessons are learned the hard way! © G.M. "DOC" Lousignont, Ph.D. Friday morning I arose at 5:30 am, showered, grabbed my gear and packed Arizona from Las Vegas for a little gold hunting. White Hills is a 1 hour drive from Las Vegas, it's 50 miles. Then the next 25 miles is cross country into the desert, (4 wheel only and heavy ply tires), and takes another hour. I arrived at my destination at 8:00 am and I was swinging that SD2200d by 8:10 using a 11 inch monoloop coil. Now I have to tell you that I have been a bit disgruntled for about 2 months because I have hit a dry spell. Actually the problem was that I had gotten spoiled when I first started hunting nuggets. I had bought a Minelab XT18000,and the first 4 times out found three nuggets, the second being a 6.1 gram beauty. So I was lulled into believing that this nugget hunting thing is a snap. By the way, for those of you that can't afford the pricey SD2200d, the XT18000 is a fabulous machine. But after finding 3 pieces of gold I had the fever and so I bought a SD2200d, because I thought I was HOT FECES! So for 2 months I've been hunting with the 2200d and haven't found anything that resembles gold. Oh I've dug every shallow stinkin' piece of wire, 22 shell casings, slugs, boot tacks - BB's -- if it's C R A P, and shallow, I've dug it! But no gold. I kept trying to tell myself that it couldn't be me, it must be this darn detector, maybe it wasn't working right. But if it wasn't working right how could I find a little boot tack, or a BB? Well they were only surface targets after all, only 1 to2 inches down. But that was then and this was last Friday and between those times I had sat down and had a long talk with myself. I tried to figure out what the heck I was doing wrong, or what was different since I had got the SD2200d. Well the only thing that was different was that I was now using a more powerful detector that went deeper. Oh yeah, real deep! Two inches!! WOW! I started to think about that, and the fact that this detector is so powerful that if I happen to get my head over the coil it will hit on my gold wire rimmed eyeglasses. Now this means it's air testing my glasses at 5ft 7 inches. Yeah I know, I'd never make it in the NBA, but that's besides the point, and what does basketball have to do with metal detecting and how dare you even bring the subject of my height into this discussion; you inconsiderate pig! So I’m vertically challenged! It goes well with my bald head and age spots; I’m a friggin’ mess. My eight year old daughter calls me a sad little man. Anyway, I started to do a mental inventory of my hunting persona. Looking at me from the front, head to toe, the METAL inventory is the following: I have on eyeglasses with gold metal frames. I have a heavy gold necklace with a Spanish silver coin framed in gold. I wear a safari vest with a GPS in one pocket, a couple of power bars in another pocket wrapped in foil, a camera in another, a pocket watch, and old transmission from a 57 Chevy in another pocket, and god knows what else. I mean it has 17 pockets after all, I have to fill them up with some type of garbage. The vest alone probably weighs 300lbs. Then I wear a webbed belt, with, of course, a big metal buckle. On that belt I have a tool bag that has two metal hooks for carrying a hammer, or other tools, of course I carry a rock pick in case a piece of quartz tries to attack me, and a K-bar military knife. On my regular belt, the one that tries to hold my pants up, I have a beeper, and my gold Licensed Private Investigators badge. On my side I'm carrying a Sig 9mm weapon. In my pockets I have about three dollars in change, a gold money clip, my car keys, a folding pocket knife, and anything else I can think of that is made of metal. Under my pants I am wearing underwear made of sheet metal with copper rivets, adorned with .38 cal slugs welded into the shape of little hearts. I mean the point of this is, I had on so much metal that by the time this powerful detector saw all of this metal stuff, and with it's automated ground balancing, it compensated for what it thought was ground mineralization, it probably couldn’t have detected a 747 buried at three inches. You know I read and read about this stuff and still it doesn't sink in - what was I thinking? In my business I consult with a lot of companies and professional folks who once were successful and now find themselves in a slump. Do you want to know the one thing they all have in common? They forgot the basics of what it was that they did that made them successful in the first place! They started cutting corners. And because "the basics" of anything are usually pretty fundamental, once they are mastered they get boring. So people start improvising and getting away from the basics to liven things up a little, to do things different, and the next thing you know, they’re in a slump. Always remember, experimentation is an expensive proposition. If you want to be successful do what has worked before. Once you have so much money you don’t know what to do with it all then you can spend some bucks on research and development and experimentation. After having this long talk with myself I went back out to the gold fields last Friday and like I said, by 8:10 am I was swinging my detector in the Arizona desert. However, keeping in mind the possible problem I was causing wearing so much metal I decided to make one small change. I decided to metal detect naked. That’s right I was stark naked at 8:10 am in the Arizona desert metal detecting, ouch! Darn watch those cactus! OK - I’m kidding I wasn’t really naked, but I did leave all that metal in the car. Guess what, I started getting targets. By around 12:10 pm I had dug about five.22 slugs, or pieces of slugs, two small pieces of wire, one at 12 inches, and an expended shotgun shell. BUT STILL NO GOLD! Well I thought it was about time for a break so I headed back to the car for a sandwich and a soda. I swung my detector as I walked, not really being very careful about overlapping. I was within sight of my car when I got another signal. Another .22 no doubt. I dug about six inches into very soft soil until the target was in the pile of dirt and not in the hole. I split the pile of dirt a couple of times to isolate the target into a smaller workable pile. Down on one knee, first scoop of dirt across top of coil, nothing, second scoop, and I had the target in the scoop. I started splitting dirt into my hand and the plastic scoop until I had got down to a few grains of dirt, a couple of pinhead size rocks, and a darn .22 caliber fragment a little bigger than a kitchen match head. I grabbed the fragment and waved it over the coil to confirm that was the target. I fumbled to reach for my detector while I moved to deposit the bullet fragment in my trash pouch. Out of the corner of my eye, I thought I saw a glint from the sun come off the slug fragment. I held the slug in my hand and stood up and waved the coil over the hole and the dirt one more time. Then I directed my attention back to the small fragment. I held the slug in my hand and waved the coil over the piece of lead. I rubbed it between my fingers and it started to show some shiny spots. I thought to myself, "it must have been a copper jacketed .22." Then I started talking to myself out loud. "Wait, this isn’t the color of copper, the shiny spots look like the color of gold. THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE! It couldn’t be gold, I haven’t found any gold with this 2200d because I wear too much metal! But you took the metal off stupid! Yeah sure, but all there is around here is .22caliber slugs, you’ve been digging them all morning. So get out your drinking water." Suddenly I realized that I was standing naked in the desert talking to myself -OK, I wasn’t really naked! I told you I was kidding about that part, why won’t you believe me? I dropped the suspicious item into my plastic scoop and poured a little water in on the questionable metallic object. Sticking my index finger in the water on top of the item I gave it a vigorous rub. When I removed my finger, there, to my amazement, was not a lead bullet fragment, but a gold nugget that later weighed out to be .7 gram. That little nugget was so dirty, and my mind was so cluttered with negative thinking that I almost threw it in my trash pouch; the trash pouch that would have been summarily dumped into a trash can upon reaching home. So my dear friends the moral of this true story is, 1. Never give up 2. When things don’t seem to be working, review the basics and then get back to practicing them. 3. Stay positive 4. Don’t dig a target with a pre-conceived notion 5. Examine every find carefully before discarding it. More than enough said. Let’s be careful out there and find lot’s of that yellow stuff! Doc
  11. Wow, how time flies. I wrote that 17 years ago? Holy crap. I was only 51. I'm surprised at that young age I knew how to read or write or spell. :-) Merry Christmas everyone. Doc
  12. You are on the right track! That reddish quartz, as you said, is iron stained. There is an old saying, Iron is the Mother of Gold. So what else to look for. Look for areas of pulverized quartz, right adjacent to areas of broken down granite. Sometimes it is actually easier to spot these areas when you are on a high vantage point looking over distant areas. There is this sea of read ground and then you see this area that is white (quartz) and right adjacent to it is an area that is a darker grey almost black (granite.) These are decomposed or weathered ancient contact zones. At one point in time a quartz reef sat adjacent to a granite reef. Gold likes to form veins in the quartz in contact zones. The molten granite comes to the surface under pressure and starts to cool, now comes molten quartz and bumps up against the granite. Now you have two different materials cooling at different rates and the quartz gets fractures in it because of these different rates of cooling. Now comes the molten metals, the iron, the gold, silver and under pressure it is forced into these fractures. Weathering causes the iron to oxidize, the quartz reef breaks down and liberates the gold. Now there are other theories about how some gold forms. Like crystalline gold. It is theorized that this gold is leached out of rock by acidic water and taken into solution. Somewhere along the path this water hits an area of conditions that neutralizes the acid, or combines with the acid to make a small gold molecule come out of solution and form a small crystal. Years and years and years, and this gorgeous crystalline forms into a beautiful matrix of a nugget. When you find these contact zones, look down hill from the contact zone where the liberated gold may have moved. Hope that is of some help. Doc
  13. You are so right. But then again, you don't know if someone else years ago hit that ground and cleaned her out. Because I, like you, would consider that pretty sweet looking ground. Although my experience has been the smaller the quartz, maybe the size of rock salt, the better I like it. When I was in Sudan, the gold fields at first seemed confusing. I was looking for quartz and not readily seeing any. Then I looked closer. You would see small humps in the desert floor. When you would walk to them you would see that they were once quartz reefs that had been completely pulverized by the blowing sand. You looked at the "sand" and it was completely pulverized quartz. It was so cool. There are some "scientific facts" that experienced detectorists know. 1. If you find a nugget within the first 10 minutes of arriving at the gold fields. Go ahead and go back home and catch up on your sleep, because that is it for the day. 2. The farther you walk away from your truck and the longer you detect, the closer the only nugget you will find will be to your truck as you head back to head home. You know, 20 feet from your truck after 10 hours of detecting, and you get a target and it's a nugget. 3. The bigger the nugget, the longer the dry spell before you find another piece of gold. Finding a 1/2 ouncer is like a jinx. 4. That really great looking area that you and everyone goes by on the way to the gold fields, that you assume everyone has checked out already. Well, you know what they say about when you assume something. Five years I passed by this area I am thinking about. One day I said, "Oh what the hell." 10 feet into the first gully, a target. 1.2 grams. Hour and a half later I had 17 nuggets. I remember another area that I detected for years and years. Always parked in the same place. As I am coming back to the truck one day after a hard long hot day of detecting, with only one nugget, I get a target about 25 feet from my truck. I figure it has to be a piece of trash, but I dig it anyway. It's a nugget. I move my truck and find 12 more nuggets. I had been parking on a patch for 2 years. Doc
  14. You bet. I have been wanting to write this for some time. I cringe every time I hear someone say gold is where you find it. We all know there is so much more to this. Merry Christmas! Doc
  15. I am always dismayed when I read of fellow detectorists who say that they have yet to find a piece of gold after one year, two years, etc. I am to the point now where I find gold almost every time I go detecting. I may get skunked 1 out of 20 times. That 1 time is usually when I am prospecting totally new ground, and just have not hit a new area yet. We all know the saying, "Gold is where you find it." I think that statement is wrong and very misleading and harmful. In fact I think it may give newbies the wrong impression about prospecting for gold. It implies that gold is randomly dispersed, and if you do happen to find it, it is only by some coincidence or luck. Nothing could be further from the truth. Finding gold is a science and an art executed by people with the skill and experience that know what they are doing. All we are doing with a metal detector is processing dirt. Now the more dirt we process the better chance we have of finding gold. But think of what a small amount of dirt we are processing. A column of dirt under the coil to an indeterminate depth and we sweep that coil back and forth. We do that for 6 to 8 hours a day? Now compare that to the tons and tons of dirt you see the boys on Gold Rush process. Yards and yards and tons and tons of dirt processed to collect their gold. It's amazing that we find anything when you compare the small amount of dirt we "process" with a metal detector. So, think about what a bizarre feat it is for a person with a metal detector to process such a small amount of dirt, and yet be able to find gold. It is the old adage "needle in a haystack" so to speak. Yet, some prospectors. Bill, Fred, Tom, Kevin Hoagland, Mike, us guys that have been around a while, how come we are more successful at finding gold than other people? Do we process more dirt? NOPE! We spend our time processing dirt that is more likely to have gold, than other dirt. We have all heard go low and go slow. Well, I agree with that "go low" admonishment. You need to keep that coil on the ground. But SLOW? If you watch experienced detectorists, you will see that they vary their speed when they are "looking for gold." They speed up in areas that their knowledge and experience tell them they are less likely to find gold. They slow down in areas where that experience tells them there may be a greater chance for there to be gold. So they spend their time more productively by processing only dirt that has a higher probability of having gold. Now when they find a nugget, they may turn around and go back over the area they went through quickly. This time they will go more slowly. They do this because they now know this area may be more likely to have gold too. So they invest their time wisely. As an outlandish example. You are standing in a paved parking lot of a Walmart. Next to the Walmart are acres and acres of quartz strewn red dirt with all kinds of gullies where water has ran during the wet season. Where are you most likely to find gold? Are you going to spend your day in the Walmart parking lot swinging over asphalt? Well experienced detectorists are constantly looking at their surroundings. They look at where they are going and where they have been. They are calculating the odds. Is this a Walmart parking lot, or a gold vault? "Gold is NOT where you find it." "Gold is found in places it is most likely to be." Seasoned prospectors have spent their careers learning what those places look like. Now are we ever surprised to find a nugget in a place where we would never intentionally look. Certainly, but those are few and far between. Most times when we find a nugget we have a pretty good idea of why it is where it is. Deteriorated quartz is everywhere, we detect on a bench, in a tailings pile, in the bend of a gully, under a waterfall of boulders, behind a bush lining a gully, near an old mine or there are indications the old timers were there. I once was way off the beaten path on my ATV. I found a canteen that said BEAR BRAND, Patent 1918. Lid still on it, canvas completely gone. I stopped right there and detected the gully I found it in. I pulled out three nuggets. Let's say after a year you finally find your first nugget, under a boulder up on the side of a gully. From that day forward, you will check every boulder on the side of gullies. Why? Because you learned where to look. It's no coincidence that after taking so long to find their first nugget, newbies generally find their second nugget soon there after. WHY? Knowledge. I have often said, if you don't take at least 20 minutes with every nugget you find, letting it tell you it's story, you are missing a valuable education. "How did you get here little buddy? Why did you stop here? Where did you come from? What's different about this gully than other gullies I have checked? Is there a concentration of deteriorated quartz around here? A contact zone? You're sort of rough, you didn't travel far did you?" I can almost bet that any experienced prospector will tell you that they can be riding on their ATV and all of a sudden they come upon ground and their heart starts beating a little harder. They may even say to themselves out loud, "Oh man this area looks good." After years and years of experience, we sometimes just "get a feeling." It's not voodoo, it's just our subconscious telling us that at sometime in our past, we came across a place that exhibited similar conditions, and we found gold there. We may not even remember the specific area in our distant past on a conscious level, but our sub-conscious knows. So what is the moral of this story? Buying a detector and expecting to learn how to become a successful prospector without training is like buying a 747 and trying to get it airborne when you have had no training. I hear it time and time again. I've been detecting 2 years and never found a piece of gold. Who trained you? TRAINED ME? "Well I've done a lot of research and I have read a lot on detecting and prospecting and I belong to the GPAA ...." That's akin to someone saying, "I have had the worst luck with airplanes. I have owned five different planes and can't get the darn things in the air; I have crashed every one of them." Where did you get your flight lessons? "ME? LESSONS? YOU MEAN FLYING LESSONS?" So boys and girls, my lesson for today is: "Gold is NOT where you find it." "Gold is found in places it is most likely to be." So have someone teach you WHERE to look! Doc © 2017 G.M. "Doc" Lousignont, Ph.D.