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  1. 22 points
    This weekend past, I managed to find some time for a hunt. My initial plan was to traverse the hillsides, hilltops, and slopes for a new patch. Well, I accomplished both. Found a slope with a very reddish decomposing pegmatite , and decided to hunt it. First two swings and I found the little guy in the pic ( .5 Gram) , 15 feet above that one, I get a subtle target, but defined. About 8 inches down, I unearth a black rock that`s screaming. Turns out to be a chunk ( 4 grams ) of what appears to be hematite, with a gold seam running right through it Bailed out of that spot to go hit an area I had found a few before. Wouldn`t you know it, I banged out a nice 3 gram quartz gold specimen, and and a .6 tenth piece. All this gold is about as coarse as it gets . Eluvial nuggets can be very attractive..
  2. 21 points
    Just a short condensed description on how and where to find gold. I have promoted Jim Straights books for many years, "Follow the Drywashers" and others. because they are well written they are a great inexpensive alternative to not having to know a lot about geology if your new to the game of gold prospecting/detecting and not wanting to hunt everything/everywhere. or not wanting dig up a whole creek bed looking, you have other options you may not be aware of as well. Jim's books primarily focus on and teaches you about drywashing and what to look for as far as indicators of old workings (hand stacked rocks-classified piles etc.)and includes places to start looking for gold left behind by the old timers, his books are an easy way to start finding gold without having to have a masters degree in gold associated geology to understand them. I should say Jim is a personal friend of mine and has been for many years. his books helped me find a lot more gold.There is also a lot of great general prospecting info in them too. well worth the price. and Im not going to get into more details about whats in his books for obvious reasons. But I should also say based on my research and years spent in the gold fields Ive found that many of the old timers knew little about geology and missed many gold deposits. I have proved this by finding other cracks in their prospecting techniques so to speak in recent years that made them leave behind a lot of gold. Generally most of them tested (panned-drywashed) every wash they could find and most used a trial and error method in washes to sort out where to find gold and to work. I don't know about you but I don't have the time or the patience for that method anymore. and that method alone has many other mistakes they made that caused them to miss a lot of gold and I'll get into that later. OK Here are some of them. Many gold deposits in creeks,washes and rivers where ground out by flooding of the creek or river bedrock from gold bearing veins crossing them. but not all of them. much of the gold in them drained into them from many hillside placers and are the result of slower gravity erosion and not influenced by water as much as in the creeks and washes. so the same rules don't always apply to them. and yes there are a lot of rules to gold and my list is still growing but the longer the list gets the more gold I find. Many gold deposit outcrops up on hillsides Ive found haven't made it to the nearest wash,creek or river yet. many are much younger than the gold in many of the creeks and they are still in the process of eroding down a ridge, hillside etc. from quartz veins or with other gold associated geologic deposits. much of the larger gold is still stuck up on these ridges and slopes. sure in some cases the smaller gold from these outcrops may have made to a nearby wash but not enough gold for the old timers to pursue by hand working or their testing methods and were abandoned, in many cases not leaving much if any indicators the old timers even tested them. keep in mind, they didn't have metal detectors. If you using a metal detector you already have a huge edge on the old timers. In some cases the smarter prospectors noticed or they suspected where the gold was coming from because they left small test holes at the upper edge of creeks or even in the hillside nugget patches but the gold was scattered out and with larger slower moving nuggets not confined or concentrated in a wash so they abandoned these too. many patches I've found have had no test digs at all. I found them based on geology and common geologic indicators associated with gold. I have found decent gold "leavins" as I call them (gold the old timers missed)in the old timers drywash workings. "semi-virgin patches",(found and worked by the old timers but never hunted with a metal detector). But I've have to say where I've found my best "multi-pound" (many ounces) "virgin patches", (never discovered by anyone) in most cases is up out of the drainages using geology alone. just so you understand my terminology I've included some of my common terminologies. i.e. "pounded patches" etc with an explanation/definition of them. "Pounded Patches"(found by the old timers and detected to death or near death with metal detectors determined by depth and the metal detectors that have proceeded you and your detecting skills) Well I'm out of time folks so I'm going to leave you with this. I have been successfully nugget hunting for almost 40 years, and here is a general list of what has worked for me. You can start with #1 and add #2, #3,#4 and #5. #1. Hunt everything and everywhere. #2.Get private help and instruction. #3. Do research to find known gold mining areas, prospecting books included. browse the forum. #4. look for and follow the drywashers. #5. learn about geology. I recommend #2 through #5. More later as time permits. AzNuggetBob
  3. 15 points
    I was out at one of my locations on both Friday, and Saturday and managed to score these five-nuggets. This location had this massive bedrock outcropping right in the middle of the wash, which "angled" downward about 4-feet into a sandy-overburden open area (pond of sorts). I had found 3-4 small nuggets (sitting ducks) at this location a couple of years ago, but hadn't been back since then. After standing down stream for a few minutes (trying to "read-the-wash") I decided to dig down (down stream) right below the bedrock that became hidden beneath the sand. After digging down about 3-feet (following the bedrock down) I discovered that the bedrock had been worn away into a 3" x 4" cavity and then shot upward in an angle about 2 1/2 feet,.. kind of like a huge "V". Initially, I was kind of skeptical about even messing with this spot as the bedrock was composed of smooth, ( very smooth) very-worn bedrock, which most of us know usually doesn't hold (or trap) the gold. After clearing the "V'd area out I swung my coil over the cavity and got a very strong signal. The speci-nugget is the one that I found there, which weighed in at 1.01 grams. I had also observed that the upstream part of the wash that approached the bedrock outcropping was somewhat of a level area. It had stopped 4"-size rocks and most likely caused the flowing water (when it had been flowing in the past) to slow down, which indicated to me that nuggets would be blocked and drop there. After clearing out the rocks and overburden that had accumulated there,... sure enough I picked up three signals, which are the three smaller nuggets pictured. The above 4-nuggets I found on Friday. Then on Saturday I went back and continued clearing rocks and overburden away heading upstream. The area was still kind of level. When I skimmed off a spot I noticed a greyish-greenish clay material as a bedrock. I swung my coil over the area and got a very strong signal over this material. The nugget was down about 4" in this material and weighed in at 1.03 grams (the second of the two larger ones). All total the five nuggets weighed in at 2.36 grams,...."YAHOO"..................Gary
  4. 14 points
    This video has been around for a long time now and at this forum twice and they make several mistakes in how they are using proper ground balancing procedure for this detector. There is a micro processor on board and being fully automatic MUST be balanced properly. I have been using one for months now and know them very well and this video proves once again that getting your detector from someone that will train you is very important and I could have straightened that issue out with less than 10 minutes showing them proper setup. The makers of the video have also now admitted it was simply user error due to inexperience. I too was baffled at first with the 1000, then I took the time to learn it. The GM 1000 is a very different technology than other VLF detectors and I think many here that are kicking nugget butt with them will also agree that at first it was confusing dealing with the micro processor having to learn the ground again any time it is lifted more than say 7 inches above the ground and it takes a good several seconds (10 or more in hot spots) pumping the coil while moving it around a bit to calm it back down as it re learns the ground. Once I learned this detector I was quickly amazed at how well it will find gold tiny to chunky. Yes I still use my 7000 in deep ground, but when I need a VLF the GM 1000 is my go to for hunting shallow areas and bedrock now hands down. As far as the video goes funny it is still up and I can prove it wrong to anyone that wants to see it by showing you the detector run wrong and then correctly.....
  5. 13 points
    Yo All...When I first started mining and prospecting in 1977, I had the great good fortune of meeting old "Tatoo George" Muth in Northern CA ... He had worked the Rich Hill placer areas back in the '30's and '40's and had hunted a large drainage off the Scott River headwaters near the Trinity Divide since the 1920's with a partner he called the "Old One Eyed Guy" ... He was a big fan of old channel up on the hillsides ... He also taught me about looking for mineral colors ... He always said that the more different colors of mineralization the better the chances for gold ... He also showed me areas where "pocket hunters" had scored many pounds of gold below ore outcrops ... By sampling hillsides near the edges of the area below the outcrops (what our Aussie bros call "Loaming"), you can sometimes find the pockets where the gold has been halted on its gravity fueled trip downhill.... While a bland looking hill side can often be devoid of gold, sometimes the edges of the bland ground can really produce ... I've found a number of virgin patches where the gold was in boring grey ground surrounded by hot looking gossan ... The gossan was barren, but the grey ground is sometimes littered with gold... Specific minerals I look for are ironstone, quartz, greenstone, pyrite and iron schist striated bedrock ... One of my big surprises was learning that the gold actually sometimes forms in the iron schist bedrock without the immediate presence of quartz ... Fingers tired but I'll try to add some find pix found in such ground ... Cheers, Unc
  6. 13 points
    Some nice new years nuggies that I was able to get my coil over. Maybe you can spot all of them in the pic, there were more smaller bits in this crevice than first glance revealed. Some of the smaller bits are not visible, some are. This crevice was right in the drop zone of the wash on an inside bend, textbook cherry picking The larger pieces in total weighed 6.2 grams and with the other little bits added in the total rose to 6.9 grams. I don’t post gold often for several reasons, but sometimes feel like being more active on the forums. A big part of that is that after so many years on the forums I just burned out from posting Gold always excites. Plus when you get out several times a week it just seems redundant to post over and over (again speaking only for myself). After you’ve been in the dirt game for a long time, you really don’t care about receiving forum recognition for just doing what you enjoy doing. I’m sure a few others here can relate to this. We’ll see what 2018 brings. Wishing you all a golden start to your new year
  7. 13 points
    A few weeks ago I detected my first gold pieces with a GB2. This really boosted my confidence in the field and has been a huge motivator. A couple days ago I was itching to get out to the desert, so I loaded up my stuff and headed out. After hiking through Cat Claw hell, I found what looked like a good spot. I moved some boulders and then got the Gold Bug 2 dialed in and ready to go. My first target was a small nugget - Yes! I took some time to look at the area, take a few pics and make some mental notes. An hour later, in the same general area, I got a loud signal from the bedrock. I was chipping away the rock and then noticed something that looked like chewed gum in the dirt. It ended up being my biggest piece of gold yet! It was an incredible morning that I will never forget. Happy New Year!
  8. 13 points
    Last night I decided to do a short hunt today for a couple of hours to a old spot. Been over it a lot with the 5000 and bigger coils. Took the Munster in this time. Its about a mile back in so I was detecting by 8:30 (no use getting out there and freezing before the sun comes up) Got these two little guys out of some tribs on the side of a hill. Really small tribs. Even if its just a depression, I will detect it as you never know what can pop up... Each one is about .10th of a gram. Fun day out just scooting along with the little detector and enjoying Christmas Eve. Tom H.
  9. 12 points
    Very Nice Ron. Great photo's. keep them coming. Rod great posts with lots of info and you reminded me of several subjects I need to comment on too. Thanks for your input Rod. Its nice to see some other very experienced prospectors here sharing also. Thanks to all of you that have been posting here. there is a lot more to come. Thanks Bill I think we may have let the Jeanie out of the bottle on this one. I agree the prospecting books are worth their weight in gold. Both new books and old.when you mentioned low production areas. shoooth your letting some secrets out of the bag. just kiddin, so am I. I have also found that if they don't have all the glitz of the higher production areas they don't draw the crowds. so you don't have all the pre-hunted pressure of the well known areas. Ive done well hunting these low production areas and for years have concentrated on them. some have even been on now private land and I have even knocked on peoples door and successfully asked permission to hunt them. some didn't even know that the land their house is on was mined for gold long ago. Bill I took that idea to the next level and I thought I would throw in an educational story. Here is another little prospecting secret I sort of accidentally happened into. as you can imagine over the years of nugget hunting I have collected an extensive prospecting and geology book collection including maps. for years I specifically collected old ones. (sort of a hobby) I notice that many years ago some of these so called low production areas have been dropped from newer publications and maps. many of the books I have are very old original publications and are rare and very hard to find. On the flip side many of the newer publications have new gold discoveries that are not in the older ones as well. I've told this story before but I decided to add more details so more people can learn how I did it. I didnt always share some of my hunting secrets. One area I found in a prospecting book is today, a new housing subdivision. two-three acre lots.This was several years ago. I did my research and found out who owned it. It turned out to be a real estate developer. I explained to him that I am a professional nugget hunter and what all I had in mind and what all it involved. I got permission from the real estate developer to hunt it until the new lots were sold. he didn't even want a percentage of any gold I found. Hunting on a percentage has gotten me into several private gold mining claims. I have several examples of what I've found on these deals. I'll put up photos later. He had some knowledge of mining and seemed more intrigued by my idea than anything. Anyway I get in there (locked gate) he gave me a key and so I'm in there and I'm sizing the place up. I'm lookin at the topography and the mineralisation and of course for signs of the old timers workings. the realtor had already graded out the roads and sites for the new lots. There was very little written about it. it was like a one small paragraph burp in the book. I think in one of Maureen Johnson's books. So I head down to the creek and I spot hand stacked rocks along a small section of the creek. always a good place to start when you find the old timers hand stacks. so I'm hitting lots of trash along the creek and my pick magnet is filling up fast from the old timers trash. so I move up the creek to see if the gold is coming down the creek. I did manage to get a couple nuggets out of the upper end of the creek before the gold just quit. so as Im moving up I notice the hand stacking stopped. the old timers had stopped working the creek. usually a sign that the gold had stopped in the creek. that told me that the gold was not coming down stream anymore. Im looking around I dont see a vein crossing the creek? where is the gold coming from? so I moved up the ridge onto some benches looking for the source of the gold and I start seeing quartz float coming down the hillside, and real red dirt in this one area. as Im working my way back and forth across the hillside and I hit a bullet. I move on and another bullet. Hmmm not looking good so far. I get another target and I remember thinking another bullet? I"ve got the target in my hand after swinging my hand over the coil and as I'm wiping the dirt from it with my thumb I see the glint of Gold. Oh yah I jumped up, game on! It was about a two grammer and very coarse. now I knew there was gold up on the benches also and it hadn't traveled very far. From there I was hitting gold almost every other target. I'd found the source that was bleeding gold down the ridge into the creek., from there I was hitting nuggets high on the hillside above the creek. Classic hillside patch. a little brushy but easy diggin and low trash. most of the nuggets were only a few inches deep. The trash ratio ended up about one to two bullets per nugget. most of the nuggets got coarser and larger as I expected. the quartz float and hematite and magnetite nuggets were getting thicker the higher I went. The source of the gold was obvious by then. I later worked my way up and found the vein. you could see where the old timers had taken some sample digs on it here and there but never pursued it on a larger scale. The old timers had hit the washes hard, but not the ridges. also where there was less trash and by then I think I was up to about four ounces. but here is the real kicker. A few days later, Not sure why just got up Christmas eve morning and decided I needed to go hunting. maybe had to get my gold fix? . So I decide Im going to go hit this same area. see if I couldn't sqeek one or two more nuggets out of the area before I gave up on it. I also knew I was running out of time on it as the lots were selling around it pretty fast. every day I was there I'd see the real estate agent bringing in new prospective buyers. he would stop and ask well how ya doing, finding anymore? yep got a few more. Id show him and I remember him jokingly saying I'll price these lots a little higher. LOL Tell you the truth I almost purchased that lot. Nuthing like nugget hunting gold in your own back yard. but by then I had hit it pretty hard, I thought. Anyway I get up there and its just starting to snow again. Im walking around up on the upper end of patch where I'd been finding the nuggets before, but I move over to right some because I see this slight depression on the hillside. I get into that depression and I'm swinging along and I'm only there about an hour and its starting to get cold fast. the snow is picking up. by then Im wet, its getting muddy. Im slip sliding in the red clay muck and I'm starting to think maybe this wasn't such a good idea after all. It wasnt a few swings later and I get this faint whoom from my detector, hot ground? it was mineralized red and very hot ground in there. I scrape off the inch or two of snow and check it again. whoom- whoom, still there. I check my ground balance to the side and swing over it again, its still there. and its a wide hit not a quick zip zip. so Im pounding thru the clay with my pick and I get down six or seven more inches and its still there and its getting louder,very loud. I widen the hole so I can get my coil in there and go down another six or seven inches and hit soft green schist bedrock and check the hole again, its gone. I look at my pick magnet, nothing?. I turn to check the pile and wham! Its blowing my ears off. I drop down to my knees and in the first hand full of mud and clay I got it, and it's screaming as I move my hand over the coil. I remember thinking this better not be trash. and It wasn't as I rubbed the clay away it was a big chunk of gold! Here is a photo of the average gold I was finding in there. Here is a photo of the big one I took of it as soon as I got home and got it washed off. I just layed it on a railroad parking tie out in front of my house next to a penny for the photo. I call this nugget the Merry Christmas Nugget. Sorry its a bit blurry, its a photo of a photo. I no longer own the nugget. It was a very Merry Christmas. It weighed about three and a half ounces. Detector I was using was a Fisher Gold Bug VLF metal detector with a 14" coil. Take care out there. AzNuggetBob
  10. 12 points
    Went out yesterday with Dave, James, and Dad to do some detecting up the LSD way. There is a mineralized vein that I got a flake out of in the past, so I took some more samples. There were some really small specks in it but nothing to write home about. Looked like I was slaughtering a pig when I panned it out. Did some detecting in a wash on the other side of the hill and WOW! Did I get a work out digging garbage. I cant believe how much was in this wash in the LSD area. I thought every wash out there had been hit. Especially this one as its so easy to get to. So at a ratio of about 16 trash to 1 treasure....I had a name for that wash. After working my way down to a V, I get the first one (medium sized one in pic, put a stick and scoop in the pic. so you could see how deep it was on that nug). Had to chip out the bedrock to get it out. Above it in the other drainage at the V I get the small one. I heard Dave talking to Dad up on the hill so I went back and got them so they had a chance at getting some yellow stuff. They used the GB2 and Monster and were kind enough to clean up all the bird shot I dont hear with the 13x17 EVO coil. A little farther up the other drainage I get the big one. .8 of a gram total...no skunk though! There was a lot of new hand stack in this wash and I have a feeling my two legged gopher friends may have visited it before me Hope they got a lot! Found a pretty cool copper rock also. Great day out with friends and got blessed with some gold. Tom H.
  11. 12 points
    Today in lala-land, I was hiking aimlessly, willy-nilly , with no concerns, and not paying one bit of attention to ground conditions. All I asked for was bedrock, and gold.......Maybe it was a stroke of luck? ... I found both.
  12. 12 points
    On Christmas Day at Jackass Flats, I was out trying out some track settings on a drone debating whether to go detecting, run around on the Can Am, explore, or just do some photography. I went out on Christmas Eve and found a few dinks so I wasn’t in a big hurry to get out detecting on Christmas Day. That was decided when I ran into ArticDave and James heading out on Patches to check out some new areas, so we hitched up and off we went. I took the Monster for a walk up one wash while Dave and James hit some others. Within 15 minutes of heading up the wash, the first target the Monster sniffed out was the coolest shaped nuggets I’ve ever found in AZ. The rest came after moving some overburden and hitting other exposed bedrock over a couple of hours. It was a great time out with Dave and James on Christmas Day. Looking forward to heading out again with those two fine fellas.
  13. 11 points
    Hi everyone, hope your all enjoying this early spring weather. I know we are here in the North. Its not too often we can get in the hills around here in January but we made it out yesterday. The boys hounded me all day Saturday so we decided to see how much snow and mud was up at our spot. Surprisingly there was no snow and a little mud. Well like the header says, we were going to chase the gold, but when the "FINDING GOLD" part didn't pan out, we switched to the relic side of things. Turned out pretty good. My little guy found a real neat decorative hook thingy (thats what he calls it) that he went absolutely crazy over, and of course his usual rusty pile of treasures that fill the back of my truck. He does a good job of cleaning the desert of ALL tin and metal. Then my oldest boy found some killer ornate buttons and some cool pocket watch pieces and a solid silver ring of some sort. Its not like a ring you wear, but like a decorative loop to something. That is really cool. Then he found a smashed thimble and some other odds and ends. I ended up finding 5 gold gilded flat buttons all in the same hole, a silver spoon, some neat odds and ends and about 385 pounds of lead. At least thats how heavy my pants pockets felt carrying all them bullets that were down 12 plus inches, jeez. I love my 5000 with the 15 inch EVO but man, its rough digging that many targets in trash laden areas. Finally i got to where i was letting my little guy dig the targets that sounded good. He would run his detector over my target and find it with my pin pointer when he got it out. So mine and his last target ended up being a gold plated thimble. Now up until yesterday, we have never found a thimble anywhere we have gone. Yesterday we found 2. So to top it all off, we get home and start cleaning up all the finds. Cameron my oldest brings his smashed thimble over to me and told me to look inside. It was full of mud and dirt to begin with so we didnt really think anything of it. Well, while he was washing it out there was what i thought looked like 2 dimes in it. After we got it cleaned enough for them to fall out, they ended up being 2 beautiful abalone buttons in perfect shape. Not quite what we thought but hey, they are something we have never found. It was a great day out with my boys and the weather was in the 50s with sunny skies. It was fun. Sorry for the long post haha, take care everyone. Dan
  14. 11 points
    Today's Lesion Boys and Girls is "" DIY Hobanero TEAR GAS"" Someone gave me a double hand full of Lovely Orange Hobanero Peppers. Knowing they would not Last forever I came up with the Wiley E. Coyote (SUPER GENIUS) Idea to dry them out in the Microwave. Placing them in the Microwave I set the timer for TWO minutes and hit Start. At the End of the TWO minutes things were looking promising. Yep, Another TWO Minutes. Things progressing to perfection. Almost Crunchy. Yet another TWO minutes should do it. Again I push start. Turn my back to wash my hands. Wicked Wanda the Wonder Wife yells ""FIRE in the Micro Wave" !!! I turn to see the flames . OHHH CHIT! I pop the door open to extract the now Blackened Crispy Hobanero's dancing in flames. A Billow of White Smoke came rolling out of the Micro Wave. This CHIT was every bit as bad as any CS or Tear Gas I ever experienced in the Military. Eyes Blinded with Tears, Drooling like a Rabid Dog, Coughing having issues taking in breaths. RUN AWAY ! RUN AWAY!!!!!!!! Everyone vacates the house including the two dogs. Well there you have it Boys and Girls . DIY HOBANERO Tear Gas.
  15. 11 points
    Could have been used for pulling most anything nailed or stapled in. The slit is like a claw hammer and is beveled also but what puzzles me is that the ends are not flat enough to slip under tight spaces. Maybe a homemade tool for picking Cholla out of ones butt. Old Tom
  16. 11 points
    The USGS just released their latest Professional Paper 1802 Critical mineral resources of the United States–Economic and environmental geology and prospects for future supply. This thing is a monster! 862 pages and a 170 Mb download. That is a big download for a lot of people so we shrunk their bloated PDF down to 30 Mb. It's got all the stuff the bigger one does but the graphics are scaled down to web user size. You can download the full 862 page report directly from Land Matters. This huge report is fine in itself but to really understand what's in it we figured a map of all the locations would help. You can load up the Critical Minerals interactive Map right in your browser and study it along with your book. We've added the mines of the world as well as some basic base layers so you can compare the report locations to known historical and current mines. We'll be adding more features to that map soon. If you need to print out the book in it's original high resolution form you can find it at the USGS Publications Warehouse.
  17. 10 points
    Unless they edited that part out, it appeared they simply turned it on & went for it. Also, I found that manual settings don't work well for me in hot ground at all. I got a lot of erroneous noise and signals on very highly mineralized soil when using manual mode and it drove me nuts until I realized that it works much better and quieter in the Auto and Auto+ mode. By letting the processor do it's thing, it's a lot easier to find and pinpoint targets even in iron-rich areas. The guys who made that video said they had only used their monster a few times. I understand where they are coming from because I experienced the same sort of problems myself until I tried switching modes... Then I started finding tiny quail shot 3" deep in in an area with a LOT of hot rocks and iron-stained quartz, so I know it will detect gold if it's being used properly.
  18. 10 points
    Good stuff Bob, people will benefit from this. I’ll share a few thoughts as well. People seem to place old timers (both placer and lode seekers) in the “god” success class of prospectors; however, the truth is they were just like any other group of people looking to accomplish something specific. They were very much like the people on this forum when it comes to being successful in finding gold: some found more than others, some lacked experience and/or knowledge, some did not try hard enough, some were very successful, the list goes on. The old saying applies, when the legend becomes fact, people believe the legend. Not all old timers were economically dependent on gold either, some were. The drive behind dependence vs independence often played into their individual success and focus. Expanding on your note on old timer mistakes/trial and error, when it came to placer gold, the old timers often missed washes with great nugget gold because not every wash out there contains appreciable amounts of both fine, flake, and nugget gold. I’ve found many washes that showed signs of old timer testing, scattered handstacks, old trash that can be dated: solder bottoms, glass, tobacco stars, etc. and yet our detectors picked up many ounces of nuggets from grams to over an ounce or more in the wash. When we’ve hiked drywashers into some of these areas with vacuums and sometimes, the wash was almost devoid of fine and flake gold. It was a case of the old timers not seeing the forest for the trees. Now one might think, well the old timers got all the fine gold and the nuggets came later; however, the evidence on site proved that to simply not be true. Their efforts, techniques, and lack of technology all factored into their decision that the pursuit of the area was not worthwhile. This topic in and of itself has several branches that I won’t get into right now but it’s just food for thought about human nature and technology. With lode and pocket miners, many of them were sloppy due to reliance upon visuals for success. We’ve found many ounces of gold at old mine and dig sites where the old timers simply tossed aside chunks of rock (hand cobbles) where by sight no showing of gold was present. Our detectors told a very different story. Makes you wonder what the technology of the next 100 years will make our efforts with detectors today look like? I can hear it now "Man, those old timers of the 21st century with those crude detectors missed a lot gold!" Completely agree with your notes on virgin patches. The ones that we’ve discovered are up and out of the drainages in most cases. On this note, I’ve observed that people tend to look at any area in a very “now” state of mind. What I mean by this is they believe that what they see before them in the landscape, at face value, is what the landscape has been. Nothing could be further from the truth, the earth is old (how old exactly I don’t think anyone really knows) but landscapes change over time. Many gold bearing washes have changed course over time and it takes a lot of practice to notice the subtle changes on the ground that can sometimes take you from "the gold ends here" to "the gold continues up the hill that way". Every prospector starts at the beginning and today, with these forums alone, people have a huge edge on those of us who started out decades ago (34 years for me). None of us knows it all, we're all constantly learning, and every one of us is an evolving story. Another early morning post made with insufficient coffee
  19. 10 points
    Early morning hunt with the gold bug 2 Ya, no gold bug hat This spot is less than 3 miles off a well traveled and paved road. Still not feeling too excited about posting such things again but, we'll see. Sure was a beautiful sunrise with the clouds and reddish sky
  20. 9 points
    Well....barely .17g Found about 10' from the buggy and was the first target of the day in an area not known for gold. Also found a strange tarnished silver looking piece of something. It's not foil, but heavier and much stronger. Under a loupe it seems to consist of several tiny ribbons spiraled around and twisted in a random fashion. Weather was fantastic with temps pushing the high 70's.
  21. 9 points
    This is an article I wrote many many years ago that I could not find, but just ran across it. I trust it will be helpful to the newbies and may give you old sods a moment to reconsider what you are doing, or not doing. Before you dismiss the information in this post, I challenge you to take a large coin, perhaps an American Silver Dollar and tape it to the top of your metal detecting coil. You may be surprised that your detector will act perfectly normal, you can swing it, and hunt with it, you will have a threshold and not a single clue that there is a large chunk of metal attached to the top of your coil. Remember, any metal your detector sees constantly, it will generally regard as mineralization. It will balance it out, however, you lose an enormous amount of sensitivity to small items like little nuggets. Here's the article: Some nugget hunting lessons are learned the hard way! © G.M. "DOC" Lousignont, Ph.D. Friday morning I arose at 5:30 am, showered, grabbed my gear and packed Arizona from Las Vegas for a little gold hunting. White Hills is a 1 hour drive from Las Vegas, it's 50 miles. Then the next 25 miles is cross country into the desert, (4 wheel only and heavy ply tires), and takes another hour. I arrived at my destination at 8:00 am and I was swinging that SD2200d by 8:10 using a 11 inch monoloop coil. Now I have to tell you that I have been a bit disgruntled for about 2 months because I have hit a dry spell. Actually the problem was that I had gotten spoiled when I first started hunting nuggets. I had bought a Minelab XT18000,and the first 4 times out found three nuggets, the second being a 6.1 gram beauty. So I was lulled into believing that this nugget hunting thing is a snap. By the way, for those of you that can't afford the pricey SD2200d, the XT18000 is a fabulous machine. But after finding 3 pieces of gold I had the fever and so I bought a SD2200d, because I thought I was HOT FECES! So for 2 months I've been hunting with the 2200d and haven't found anything that resembles gold. Oh I've dug every shallow stinkin' piece of wire, 22 shell casings, slugs, boot tacks - BB's -- if it's C R A P, and shallow, I've dug it! But no gold. I kept trying to tell myself that it couldn't be me, it must be this darn detector, maybe it wasn't working right. But if it wasn't working right how could I find a little boot tack, or a BB? Well they were only surface targets after all, only 1 to2 inches down. But that was then and this was last Friday and between those times I had sat down and had a long talk with myself. I tried to figure out what the heck I was doing wrong, or what was different since I had got the SD2200d. Well the only thing that was different was that I was now using a more powerful detector that went deeper. Oh yeah, real deep! Two inches!! WOW! I started to think about that, and the fact that this detector is so powerful that if I happen to get my head over the coil it will hit on my gold wire rimmed eyeglasses. Now this means it's air testing my glasses at 5ft 7 inches. Yeah I know, I'd never make it in the NBA, but that's besides the point, and what does basketball have to do with metal detecting and how dare you even bring the subject of my height into this discussion; you inconsiderate pig! So I’m vertically challenged! It goes well with my bald head and age spots; I’m a friggin’ mess. My eight year old daughter calls me a sad little man. Anyway, I started to do a mental inventory of my hunting persona. Looking at me from the front, head to toe, the METAL inventory is the following: I have on eyeglasses with gold metal frames. I have a heavy gold necklace with a Spanish silver coin framed in gold. I wear a safari vest with a GPS in one pocket, a couple of power bars in another pocket wrapped in foil, a camera in another, a pocket watch, and old transmission from a 57 Chevy in another pocket, and god knows what else. I mean it has 17 pockets after all, I have to fill them up with some type of garbage. The vest alone probably weighs 300lbs. Then I wear a webbed belt, with, of course, a big metal buckle. On that belt I have a tool bag that has two metal hooks for carrying a hammer, or other tools, of course I carry a rock pick in case a piece of quartz tries to attack me, and a K-bar military knife. On my regular belt, the one that tries to hold my pants up, I have a beeper, and my gold Licensed Private Investigators badge. On my side I'm carrying a Sig 9mm weapon. In my pockets I have about three dollars in change, a gold money clip, my car keys, a folding pocket knife, and anything else I can think of that is made of metal. Under my pants I am wearing underwear made of sheet metal with copper rivets, adorned with .38 cal slugs welded into the shape of little hearts. I mean the point of this is, I had on so much metal that by the time this powerful detector saw all of this metal stuff, and with it's automated ground balancing, it compensated for what it thought was ground mineralization, it probably couldn’t have detected a 747 buried at three inches. You know I read and read about this stuff and still it doesn't sink in - what was I thinking? In my business I consult with a lot of companies and professional folks who once were successful and now find themselves in a slump. Do you want to know the one thing they all have in common? They forgot the basics of what it was that they did that made them successful in the first place! They started cutting corners. And because "the basics" of anything are usually pretty fundamental, once they are mastered they get boring. So people start improvising and getting away from the basics to liven things up a little, to do things different, and the next thing you know, they’re in a slump. Always remember, experimentation is an expensive proposition. If you want to be successful do what has worked before. Once you have so much money you don’t know what to do with it all then you can spend some bucks on research and development and experimentation. After having this long talk with myself I went back out to the gold fields last Friday and like I said, by 8:10 am I was swinging my detector in the Arizona desert. However, keeping in mind the possible problem I was causing wearing so much metal I decided to make one small change. I decided to metal detect naked. That’s right I was stark naked at 8:10 am in the Arizona desert metal detecting, ouch! Darn watch those cactus! OK - I’m kidding I wasn’t really naked, but I did leave all that metal in the car. Guess what, I started getting targets. By around 12:10 pm I had dug about five.22 slugs, or pieces of slugs, two small pieces of wire, one at 12 inches, and an expended shotgun shell. BUT STILL NO GOLD! Well I thought it was about time for a break so I headed back to the car for a sandwich and a soda. I swung my detector as I walked, not really being very careful about overlapping. I was within sight of my car when I got another signal. Another .22 no doubt. I dug about six inches into very soft soil until the target was in the pile of dirt and not in the hole. I split the pile of dirt a couple of times to isolate the target into a smaller workable pile. Down on one knee, first scoop of dirt across top of coil, nothing, second scoop, and I had the target in the scoop. I started splitting dirt into my hand and the plastic scoop until I had got down to a few grains of dirt, a couple of pinhead size rocks, and a darn .22 caliber fragment a little bigger than a kitchen match head. I grabbed the fragment and waved it over the coil to confirm that was the target. I fumbled to reach for my detector while I moved to deposit the bullet fragment in my trash pouch. Out of the corner of my eye, I thought I saw a glint from the sun come off the slug fragment. I held the slug in my hand and stood up and waved the coil over the hole and the dirt one more time. Then I directed my attention back to the small fragment. I held the slug in my hand and waved the coil over the piece of lead. I rubbed it between my fingers and it started to show some shiny spots. I thought to myself, "it must have been a copper jacketed .22." Then I started talking to myself out loud. "Wait, this isn’t the color of copper, the shiny spots look like the color of gold. THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE! It couldn’t be gold, I haven’t found any gold with this 2200d because I wear too much metal! But you took the metal off stupid! Yeah sure, but all there is around here is .22caliber slugs, you’ve been digging them all morning. So get out your drinking water." Suddenly I realized that I was standing naked in the desert talking to myself -OK, I wasn’t really naked! I told you I was kidding about that part, why won’t you believe me? I dropped the suspicious item into my plastic scoop and poured a little water in on the questionable metallic object. Sticking my index finger in the water on top of the item I gave it a vigorous rub. When I removed my finger, there, to my amazement, was not a lead bullet fragment, but a gold nugget that later weighed out to be .7 gram. That little nugget was so dirty, and my mind was so cluttered with negative thinking that I almost threw it in my trash pouch; the trash pouch that would have been summarily dumped into a trash can upon reaching home. So my dear friends the moral of this true story is, 1. Never give up 2. When things don’t seem to be working, review the basics and then get back to practicing them. 3. Stay positive 4. Don’t dig a target with a pre-conceived notion 5. Examine every find carefully before discarding it. More than enough said. Let’s be careful out there and find lot’s of that yellow stuff! Doc
  22. 8 points
    After the Minelab event hosted at the LSD by the West Valley Chapter of the GPAA and saying goodbye to friends and business partners from Minelab who came out for a little gold nugget shooting at the last part of the Minelab Partners Conference 2018 in Chandler, Mike Furness and I stopped at a beat up little patch on the way out and once again the GM 1000 scored a couple for me and Mike got one as well. Uncle Ron used to call it the Joe No Shoulders patch. Been beat to death over the last 20 years or so. There were still a couple left.... Only had a short time to hunt or may have squeaked out a couple more.
  23. 8 points
    Another beautiful day (a few hours really), more beautiful nuggets Think I mentioned it last week, this spot is less than 3 miles off a well traveled and paved road. Just do it
  24. 8 points
    From another spot, less than 3 miles off a paved road and less than 5 miles from a major highway. This spot is very trashy and the way I see it, you’ve got a few choices as to how to approach that scenario with a detector on a short hunt: 1) Trust your discriminator (nope. plus you’ll often end up not going deep enough by not digging past the trash to get to the gold) B) Fight through the trash in the wash (time waster) 3) Say to hell with detecting, enjoy your coffee, and just watch the sunrise (not a terrible choice) 3) Rake the wash out in a (hopefully) shallow drop zone using a rake and neodymium magnets (won't get it all the trash but sure helps) 5) Hunt the benches and hillsides (a lot less trash often) Being in a laid-back state of mind and having other things to do with the day, I opted for the latter. Good time management Got the first little dink right off the bat and the second took some time Sure was another beautiful sunrise. It’s out there!
  25. 8 points
    First Happy and Prosperous New Year to All at Nugget Shooter! I opened my email first thing this morning to find an email fro the tourney director at KBF (Kayak Bass Fishing) the largest Kayak Only fishing organization in the world. Well to my surprise they have asked me to compete. Many of you know I love to fish from my kayak. It is one of my top two hobbies ... prospecting being the second one. Actually they are both number one ... it's like having 2 wives as to which one rules the order of the day. So on March 23 and 24 I will be fishing Kentucky Lake out of Paris Tennessee. I had to share this with someone ... you folks are like family ... I am so stoked about this as it has been a dream and goal of mine since entering my first tourney about 5 years ago.
  26. 8 points
    My friend Jeff bought a Gold Monster from Bill a few weeks past. However last Saturday was his first chance to use/try it. I agree to go as a consultant; to give advice and moral support. Besides, I have been a house prisoner for two months and wanted to get some fresh desert air. Now, I really don't know much and neither did Jeff...so, we followed Jonathan Porters directions ( sort of) and started playing... We looked for a noise cancel/tune button-nope. So we assumed the moving bars and double beep when turned on was that.. Next we did the little bee dance and then started playing for real. Right off he got a little bit of lead and the two more bits of lead. And Then...a nugget. THis in an area where we both had worked several times with my GPZ, his 3500 and his whites...I have lots of questions about this and I see practice is key. IF you want one I urge you to get a lesson from Bill Southern or whomever you buy one from... automatic-plus is all we used and we found this stuff...no telling what there is with proper technique and tuning!!! 2 grain nugget above presidents head. fred
  27. 8 points
    Got an early start this morning and headed into the desert with Tom and his dad. My legendary skunk streak continues, but Tom scored 3 little ones! I even followed right behind Tom and cleaned up all the birdshot he missed with my gb2...still nuttin'. The weather was great for this time of year, so I can't complain. Here are the pics I have. Including Tom mining his vein
  28. 7 points
    Yesterday 1-15-18 I celebrated the holiday by snagging these two cutesy pie nuggets. Nailed them with my 7000 out of an old tailing pile around 4" deep.
  29. 7 points
    I agree about the quartz Rod. Most quartz doesn't carry gold. but when it's combined or bordered in faults with other minerals it becomes a conveyer of gold in solutions. such as iron based minerals. hematite, ironite,mercury or Cinnabar. etc. and this is what causes the red staining in the earth around it. vugs in quartz mean nothing without other elements that cause the gold to precipitate in the fractured quartz or next to the quartz. this is why you find quartz with gold only formed on one side of it. In some cases the gold comes in later in the form of solutions after the quartz has already formed. Its still a good inicater in many areas but not all. If the right minerals are not present with it, gold is not going to form. In many areas Its also a matter of what's happening with the P.H. (acidic-alkalin) and temperture of the solutions. And I agree about the Blonde sand too. Sun bleached Blonde sand and gravel on the surface means nothing. It tells nothing about what may be below it. The only thing it does tell is that area has been exposed to a lot of natural weathering for a very long time and the surface gravel is probably high in granits regardless of the schist bedrock with quartz stringers around it and the probable source of the gold. AzNuggetBob
  30. 7 points
    I simply asked for the number because I had a customer interested, he decided to go with a new one, but someone will get a good deal on yours. I never figured anyone would get upset over asking for the number. I apologize for ruffling your feathers even if I don't know how I did it...... I ask for the number on any used model I buy or recommend these days, simply business same as Minelab's policy for us dealers we have to show serial numbers on all new or used Minelab Detectors we sell online at eBay, Amazon, etc.
  31. 7 points
    Dates? Good time for a Family Reunion!
  32. 7 points
    Exposed bedrock & hardrock specimens
  33. 7 points
    An excellent resource, maps, photos, waypoints, videos etc on the Little San Domingo and main San Domingo area including the Anderson Mill area. Check out the links below the main picture on the page for goodies. http://www.experience-az.com/adventures/4wd/andersonmill/andersonmill.html
  34. 7 points
  35. 7 points
    ...A 30 pack should wash this popcorn down.
  36. 6 points
    It has been a while since I found any good rings but my last two trips have been better. One trip I got 3 rings and today I got a 22k/3.9 g ring for a change. It is my first gold of 2018! The silver ring is 7g and the other two are titanium and I think a very thin stainless. Mitchel
  37. 6 points
    After 6 months of being patient Minelab finally answered a question that Bill, Rob, and I posed to them last August. As much as I am a Minelab fan and promoter (most of us are) IMHO it’s pathetic that Minelab did not follow up with any one of us for 6 months In retrospect, perhaps my email this morning should have began something like this (after 6 months of waiting for a reply) “Dear Minelab, First of all, know that I am typing with my middle finger…” Kudos to Tracy at Minelab for being an employee who cares. All levity aside, I want to take a moment on that note to thank both Rob and Bill for trying to help get an answer. Bill actually deserves some extra credit as I did not buy the GPZ from him, I bought it from Rob. That should tell you a little something about Bill in a very good way , he had no vested interest in helping me but he did so anyway. Bill also helped me try and get an answer to the ferrite ring question after I broke mine. Minelab emailed me today and the answer is clear, any ferrite ring should be ok to use. Thanks again to Bill for his outreach efforts on this item too In anticipation of Minelab clarifying that any ferrite ring should be good to use (had a hunch), I ordered two a few days ago from Amazon for $12. You can see them in the pic below on either side of today’s 10.8 gram nugget found at the Apple pie patch. The day started with questions and ended on a golden note. Pie tastes great after finding a nugget in case you wondered and performance-wise, aftermarket ferrite rings work fine in my experience So here are the two questions in case anyone ever wonders with Minelab’s answers: Ferrite Ring Question: “Does it matter if the ferrite ring used is specifically sold by Minelab or are aftermarket ferrite rings ok to use with the GPZ 7000? Thanks, Rod” Ferrite Ring Answer: “Hello Rod, After speaking with our technician he feels that an aftermarket ferrite ring should be ok to use. Thank you, Tracy Customer Care & BDM Administrator Minelab Americas” Platform and Warranty Question: “Thank you Tracy. I sent this email (below) 6 months ago to Minelab and never received a reply. Can you help please? Best, Rod After purchasing the GPZ I read the brochure and did the recent software update. Easy, awesome, thank you. Being a Linux user I opted to borrow my better half’s Windows PC to download and transfer the file via USB. Now, my Linux system could have accomplished that simple task no problem. The brochure simply states to facilitate the update via a “computer”. The term “computer” is ambiguous. The main reason (assumption) for using my better half’s Windows system was warranty. My understanding of the legal definition of computer is essentially the following: ”A computer is a device that computes, often a programmable machine, which can perform a programmed list of instructions and respond to new instructions given to it. An electronic computer accepts data, manipulates data, produces results, and stores results.” (U.S. Legal) Many legal eagles have weighed in that definition covers any of the following: Linux, Mac, Windows, Chromebooks (Linux). tablets, phones (Android (Linux) and iPhone (MAC), etc. Quoting the Minelab brochure steps: “Begin the download by clicking on the new GPZ 7000 software update in the ‘Software Updates (Detector Firmware)' section. It will automatically save to your computer.” “Connect the GPZ 7000 to your computer via the USB cable and turn on the detector.” “Once the software update file is transferred to your detector, disconnect it from the computer by ejecting the drive and then unplugging the USB cable.” These directions never specify using Windows, Mac, Linux or anything. Just “computer”. That said, downloading and transferring a file could be accomplished with all kinds of “computers”. Again, kudos to Minelab for not making the update required to use some special software, just a file transfer. Can you use any "computer" (Linux, Mac, Windows, etc.) to initiate file transfers for GPZ 7000 updates via USB and not void your warranty? Other ways to ask this question: Does transferring files to the GPZ with anything other than a windows or mac computer void the gpz warranty? Can I use my Linux computer or phone to download the update and transfer the update file to the gpz without voiding the warranty?Thanks for your time and great products! Best, Rod” Platform and Warranty Answer: “Hello Rod, From one of our engineers: "The nature of the device that is used does not affect the warranty. A Linux box can be used without issue. A phone with a USB adapter has been used in the past. The mechanism that is used to perform updates was specifically chosen to be a Mass Storage Device so that it could be most generic." I hope that helps! Tracy Customer Care & BDM Administrator Minelab Americas” This is the original topic from August 2017
  38. 6 points
    Had an extra hou r or two to mess around today so took a short 4 mile drive, tagged a little dink and then ran into some friends and chatted for a spell
  39. 6 points
    From what I've been taught and what I've learned with first-hand experience, the first thing I noticed about this video is that they didn't ground balance properly to start with. In very hot ground, with any type of interference in the area, that will cause erratic signals. They might not be impressed with the monster, but if they had used it properly they should have dug and would have found that target early on when it was bouncing back and forth between iron & gold in all metal mode & auto settings. Just
  40. 6 points
    Ah Geology.... Lot to learn there if you want to be a geologist, but I want to hunt gold so I dabble in geology so to speak. I use as part of my research technique the map showing placer deposits of Arizona, oh and remember most that produced less than 5000.00 dollars worth in the time period these maps were produced were left out. YES they were as not deemed as economically important. So what does that mean to me? So i use a method some say is odd, but it works..... I use a geological map of Arizona and use it to identify likely spots to explore for gold and evidence of placering from those before. Doing this First off teaches me the geology that is important to find gold, but I also began to understand why some areas in AZ are good and some not. Below is a geological map, look at the color patterns in the areas shown on the above map..... Now these are just photos of the geological maps so you do not see that below on the actual map each color represents certain rock and minerals as well as gravels distributed across Arizona. This has paid well for me in places with no recorded gold production...... Just a tip and look for the areas similar in geology (or just us colors). More to it, but you'll figure it out. That will involve a few 10.00 books to aid in understanding the relationships of these mineras to gold deposits. Arizona Gold Placering, by Maureen Johnson and placer deposits of Arizona by Eldred Wilson
  41. 6 points
    Well now Bob look what ya went and Done.... Thanks Rod for the always great thoughts as well, but I am thinking this will be another epic thread for folks learning to learn how to find gold. Can't wait till some of the many other highly successful and savvy members get too adding their 2 cents... Buckle up folks.
  42. 6 points
    Thanks Bill. It appears the consensus is that i Should keep, and Learn my V-sat for now.
  43. 6 points
    Was out monkeying around tonight with my black light flashlight and decided to put it over some of the ore I dug out on Thurs. Pretty cool! Bright orange florescent in one of them. Best I can find is its a mineral called sodalite. Well, thats my excitement for new years eve Tom H.
  44. 6 points
    You can't inspire anyone if you don't show it. Appreciate what you did show though, are you afraid that someone will steal some from the picture? Old Tom
  45. 6 points
    A Jeweler I know wanted a piece of Gold Basin meteorite to play around with. I rough-polished an end piece and some slabs for him to look at...he picked aan interesting end piece to set with gold and diamonds...I think it is very nice and pretty.... Diamonds Ltd. 2812 Fletcher Parkway El Cajon, CA 92020 619-698-3583www.diamondsltd.com I have no financial interest in the piece or the maker...
  46. 6 points
    Thanks for replying to the photo, but some of you had to figure I was baiting you on the subject. Boulder dash and I have removed over 17 ounces of gold from the ground in that picture. Its likely even more than that, but I dont want to give you false information, or exaggerate , so I will keep it a conservative estimate.
  47. 6 points
    Really I do soooooo much appreciate all the concerned comments and am humbled by how many of you actually care about this old child. I am fine and a tiny bit skilled after 3 years at keeping these critters, but they are damn good at knowing when they got an open spot. Then on top of that I was on a ladder so could not remove the stinger so if filled me up good. Love bees and accepted the stings as part of the gig. Thank you, but I am fine and some spots swell more than others, but was to busy to stop for stinger removal So all the venom got pumped in good and proper, but much better now and arthritis is at bay for a spell.
  48. 6 points
    Why would you prospect in such a dull blond looking wash? The Experts would not bother..... Theres no way you found gold there
  49. 6 points
    No comment on the pink pick!! But sheesh.
  50. 6 points
    Welp...converted it over to an alternator. It was cheaper than getting a rebuilt generator and a new voltage regulator. Outputs 14.3V at idle even It took a little customizing to get the wider bodied alternator to fit, but in the end I think it was worth it. James bought a quiet exhaust for it. I guess he was worried about scaring off nuggets or something... I admit it sounds pretty good now, with a nice low rumble. Now just waiting for a little warmer weather... 34° in the desert this morning