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  2. jcervay

    Stinky rock

    Sorry, that is what you have seen in Michigan?
  3. Greg L

    Drilled Quartz?

    So far I’m at two crystal shaped inclusions that were softer than quartz? Only one hole all the way through.
  4. Bedrock Bob

    ArcticDave's Legal Eagle XL

    Will it be sensitive to the wet weather when it is finished?
  5. ArcticDave

    ArcticDave's Legal Eagle XL

    I hope it won't warp too bad. I have each size bundled tightly with masking tape in several places. They are all laying on a flat table too...that's about the best I can do for now. Should be ok till fall and drier weather.
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  7. I'm pretty sure that most of the Soap Creek area of Black Canyon City is under claim by now, but if anyone happens to be in that area and takes the jeep trail North after ascending the access road up the hill (I haven't been there in about 15 years), the " Spanish mine trail monuments" should be visible after passing Soap Creek. The "Indian Heads" are on the left and the "Poodles" are beyond the commercial? fenced off mining area straight ahead. The area may be accessible by jeep trails from the North as well. In '90's, during my first trip, the "Poodle" area had an open mine audit and a very deep, open vertical mine shaft with a small mine dump containing heavily stained/oxidized vuggy quartz. A nugget shooter using an SD200d was working a small drainage adjacent and down slope from the shaft. He introduced himself by his moniker as, "The Piano Man". He climbed out of the little gully he was in and showed me a few small nuggets he had pulled out in a couple of hours of detecting, and said he had to get home because his wife didn't like him being late for dinner! He paused for a moment and said, "There's still one or two down there if you want to give it a try. I can hear them but I don't have time dig them up" He then jumped on his ATV and left. In another half hour it was almost dark. I drove off with two dinks in my pocket rolled up in a bandanna, thinking about the courtesy and friendly gesture of, "The Piano Man" No, it wasn't Billy Joel.
  8. adam

    Stinky rock

    It is 4" minus mine slag used as railroad bed material and shoreline erosion control. Purchased from the hayden smelter, shipped to michigan on the 14th of december 1964, ore car number 73....The smell is algae/iron/sulfur.
  9. Fair Dinkum Terry. I base my convictions mainly on what I considered his being able to connect the dots in his book on mine monuments and trail markers. His photographs and narratives of rock formations in various shapes, sizes, and purposes, along with his descriptive methods as to how the Spanish positioned the figures, the eye catchers they used, the "open hole" and mortared foundation and support systems they used to stabilize the rock formations, (and to confirm that the structures were man made and not natural features), all made sense to me. The objects in his book are real. Someone made them for some reason. Of that, I am convinced. According to sources, you may be familiar with, Kenworthy amassed a great deal of Spanish archival journals, logs and materials relating to the subject. And of course, he had some pretty distinguishing people as business partners and investors in his projects who believed in him. I also read Treasure signs, symbols etc and thought it useful, but outside of what I believe to be credible evidence of the mine trail markers that I have seen up close and personal, I don't have an opinion about the veracity or validity of his work. I avoided his book on Death Traps and I didn't watch the continuing saga of Indiana Jones after the original movie either.
  10. Morlock

    Whites Detectors

    Congrats. Finallyyyyy.... I was wondering when these were going to get sold.
  11. azdigger

    Whites Detectors

    SOLD BOTH DEALS
  12. homefire

    ArcticDave's Legal Eagle XL

    Smart move on your part I think. The Delay that is. Put that stuff together now and it would take on another shape when things dry out and shrink a bit, eaa ? Don't think any fasteners would even seat right if too damp. Hope non of your wood stock try's to go twisty when all is over.
  13. jcervay

    Stinky rock

    No, in lake Erie
  14. clay

    Stinky rock

    Was this found near the Kalamazoo river?
  15. Hoser John

    Sluicing Question for CA

    Saw ticket for sluicebox for stream degeradation and introduction of a foreign material. Some FW are just insane here in French Gulch a few months back-now under fire/burning. Ask a dumb question first is my only take as some enforcement can't read. John
  16. Morlock

    Where am I ...?

    Man.... that's a hard one.
  17. billpeters

    Is this rock a potenital meteorite?

    No, Take a look at your rock(s). If it glistens like a crystal structure (ie: quartz) at any point in the rock it can’t be a meteorite. If it has layers, it can’t be a meteorite, it’s sedimentary. If it has small gas bubbles in it, it can’t be a meteorite. It’s basalt. If it is moderately magnetic it is not a meteorite. If there is a thick crust on it, it can’t be a meteorite. File off a corner or cut it. It won’t diminish it’s value. If there is all bright silvery metal it can’t be a meteorite. If it is all grey metal it can’t be a meteorite. If there is black crust as thin as a fingernail, and crazing on the outside of the rock, it might be a meteorite. If there are small silver specks visible in the filed off section, it might be meteorite. There are billions of magnetic rocks in the US, none of which are meteorites. Anyone can find magnetic earth stones nearly everywhere. Just take a strong magnet and drop into sand and you will see what I mean. Check our O Richard Norton’s, “Rocks from Space” or visit the ASU Meteorite Center or similar center. billpeters P.S. In addition, your rocks have multiple angular sides highly standard for terrestrial rocks, but not for meteorites.
  18. ArcticDave

    ArcticDave's Legal Eagle XL

    The monsoon humidity has forced me to stop the construction of the wings and tailfeathers. The wood feels damp from all the rain we have been having this year. Even under a covered area it is soaking up moisture from the air. I will restart those when our weather dries out for a couple of months. In the meantime, I pulled the fuselage out of the barn and started working on it. There is still a lot of mounting tabs and whatnot to weld on. I cut a piece of 1/8" mahagony plywood to the approximate shape for the roof of my dash panel. I have got it soaking in a tub of water to allow it to bend to the shape I need without cracking. When it softens up, I will form it in place and clamp it. When it dries it should retain the rough shape of the curve I need. I'll add more pics when it is in place.
  19. jcervay

    Stinky rock

    I also threw a chunk in the fire and some orangish yellow liquid bubbled out
  20. jcervay

    Stinky rock

    I originally picked it up because of the light bluish green color. It has the same color in the middle. When I cracked it more it gets weirder...and I don't have pics yet. Its hard, seems like mineral. Still stinky, hubby says sulphury. It is greener in the middle with slightly reflective black areas. And what looks like bits of pyrite. And some teeny pockets of tiny orange crystals. Sooooo......???
  21. Terry Soloman

    Where am I ...?

    Bingo Adam! About 300-yards southeast of the old pioneer cemetery!
  22. BMc, I've read four of Charles A. Kenworthy's books, including Spanish Monuments & Trailmarkers to Treasure; Treasure Signs Symbols Shadow and Sun Signs; Unfound Treasures of Mexico; and Treasure Secrets of the Lost Dutchman.. I met him in 1978-'79, while he was exploring in the Superstition Mountains. My Dad and I were coming back from Lebarge creek on the Peralta trailhead, when we ran into him and his friends. He talked to my Dad for a while about Charlebois Spring and Williams Camp. The man was a great writer, but I think some of his ideas are just pure fantasy and conjecture. Who is right? I have no idea.
  23. Hello to all, I have a rock and as far as I can see it has potential to be a meteorite but I am looking for expert opinion. The rock has a mass of 590 grams, it is slightly magnetic, its dimensions are around W-13 cm H-9 cm D-2 cm. What do you think? Thanks,
  24. I believe the feedback and discussion has been interesting and stimulating. The topic is controversial, just as the subject of Spanish signs and symbols, lost mines etc has always been, I suppose: Much debated with diverse opinions and interpretations. Many books written on the subject, lots of conflicting viewpoints, even by "experts" in the field. On the subject of civil engineering, I expect there is more than a dozen reasons that the great pyramids of Egypt should not exist too, but I can't imagine the modification of rock formations like those in question would present that much of an issue to skilled craftsmen. I'm left wondering what my professors at NMSU would have had to say about the matter, or what my old boss, Robert E. Donahue CE. who was the City Engineer of Las Cruces, NM when I worked for him in the engineering department, would say. Probably something like, keep an open mind. No offense taken, Mr. Bedrock.
  25. Morlock

    Stinky rock

    He said this one stinks.. Oooops. Sorry.
  26. Bedrock Bob

    Stinky rock

    Looks like a garden variety volcanic to me. Only filled with juicy sea stuff. It would probably make good bait. Lots of holey rocks around water and wave action. Soluble minerals really make wild forms when they are being slowly dissolved. Many rocks will probably wind up looking like that depending on the makeup of the rock. Chemical weathering in solution and wave action will sponge out a lot of stuff and make it look like scoria. If there is a stinkin' then there is some chemistry going on there. No doubt that lends itself to erosion of those pockets. So if it is not a volcanic full of gas bubbles or soluble inclusions then it is another type of soluble rock succumbing to Ph and water action. Are those light colored inclusions on one side of the rock a mineral or organic material? Those could be the calcium rich inclusions that are disappearing rather than an organic that is filling the gas pockets. You really can't tell from the photo.
  27. LipCa: The Kenworthy book is available on line, but I would expect that it may also be found in some local libraries. I plan to bring my copy to the outing in Nov. if anyone happens to be interested in taking a look at it.
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